camel-with-3-humps 1:54 Tue Aug 19
Sacking Allardyce would be a big mistake
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With the disappointing loss on Satirday, the calls to sack Allardyce are already mounting judging by today's papers and the talk on this forum.
I'm not afraid to stick my neck and say sacking him would be a mistake.
(And this is not some chum-throwing exercise into the waters of WHO to see what surfaces)
What would the sack achieve? The hope would be to get a manager who plays attractive football and guarantees safety.
But I don't see anyone who could do that.
In fact, the only replacement as near as they come to guaranteeing safety is, oh the irony, Tony Pullis.
Let's be clear: the time to sack Allardyce was before the season started, not now with the transfer window closing and the squad set up to play his system.
Our main objective has to be safety, so I'm willing to stomach one more season.
Dumping Allardyce, a man who virtually guarantees top flight football, would be a huge gamble for a club still in a precarious financial position.
Let's get this season out the way as safely as possible whereupon Allardyce's contract expires.
Then we can enter the Olympic stadium with a new manager and let a new dawn of exciting football begin.
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dicksie3
3:01 Wed Aug 20
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A year ago; our job would be a lot more difficult for someone new to step into...
There are enough options and quality within the squad now though for a new manager to shake things up a little and do what they want to do and keep us clear from the relegation zone...
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crapnotshit
2:49 Wed Aug 20
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Camel, are winding people up on purpose?
Until we get more goalscorers, Nolan stays...
So, how do we know that we have more goalscorers when he persists playing Nolan. The fat lazy bastard that scores some fluke goals just because the ball drops into his feet by accident!
Every fucking midfielder in the world would score more goals that Nolan playing in his role.
Twat!
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camel-with-3-humps
2:44 Wed Aug 20
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Serious Drinking
I'm not Nolan. He looks hopeless at times but he does score and create chances. That is helpful in a team of misfiring players. Until we get more goalscorers, Nolan stays.
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Serious Drinking
2:00 Wed Aug 20
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camel-with-3-humps 1:54 Tue Aug 19
Is that you Sam? No wait, don't tell me - you're Kevin Nolan.
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goose
10:16 Wed Aug 20
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if the Richards deal comes off you have to say we have a very strong squad, so hats off to the board for that (despite some more amateur moves).
No excuses now for large Sam. I'm hoping Nolan maybe picks up an injury/suspension so he is forced to play without him.
Play Valencia down the middle, Ravel or Diame takes Nolan's place.
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Full Claret Jacket
10:01 Wed Aug 20
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There is a lot of complaining about the players selected but who really knows the fitness of the players. Zarate has been used sparingly in pre season coming back from a groin injury, JOB has been injured recently, Tomkins out with injury.
Like most I see Nolan as a squad player at the moment but perhaps we need to sign another leader who can play in the centre of the park.
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ajc123
8:31 Wed Aug 20
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Actually its 24 years and he's had dozens of chances to prove the superiority of his management methods. The result - a loss to Middlesbrough (who'd never won ANYTHING before) in the League Cup final.
And since when do owners have to set a target of winning something? Any manager with an ounce of personal pride let alone ambition would set their sights a bit higher than the bottom half of the table. For Allardyce though, that is a statistical success.
I agree we have a better squad but that is only because the owners got involved, and he ain't playing any of them.
This thread should be renamed 'Why its been a mistake not sacking Allardyce'.
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HenryMc
8:06 Wed Aug 20
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He's never had the chance?
Are you drunk? He's been a manager for years. He keeps telling everyone how experienced he is!
The fact is he's past it. He should retire. The game has moved on.
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Baggins
7:41 Wed Aug 20
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OR - He's never had the chance?! In 20 years?!
Someone has forced him to put together team after team after team that bores everyone to death, 'respects the point', takes no risks and relies on set piece goals to score?
That's utter nonsense mate.
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Irons10
1:24 Wed Aug 20
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Fair play to the owners for splashing out on better younger players this season! BUT why not spend a little extra or sign 1 less player and get us the suffering fans a decent manager? A manager the fans can actually get behind and support. Imagine the lift it would give everybody, one who would actually play players in their correct positions and on currant form (young Lee for example) you just know BFS will start Nolan against Palace with Zarate etc on the bench. The dinosaur needs to be removed from his position yesterday! Don't even go there about cupping the ear and sticking fingers up at the owners. Needs to go NOW!!!
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One Raducioiu!
12:55 Wed Aug 20
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Baggins 7:23 Tue
He's never been asked to, and arguably never had the chance to.
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terry-h
11:34 Tue Aug 19
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If you count the Sheff Utd game, the 10th game is against Man City. I'm not optimistic about that one tbh.
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franksfat&slow&wank
11:27 Tue Aug 19
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I'd prefer 7.5 gamed as want the cunt sacked at half time
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camel-with-3-humps
11:06 Tue Aug 19
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Far Cough - one of the funniest post's still to this day when you accused another poster of 'breast stroke' with Cottee's sister. That really tickled me.
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camel-with-3-humps
11:00 Tue Aug 19
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JonNash - v good!
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Far Cough
10:50 Tue Aug 19
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8 Games then?
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HenryMc
10:48 Tue Aug 19
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What would ten more games give us?
He's shit. That's a fact.
Waiting won't do us any good.
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JonNash
10:10 Tue Aug 19
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Sam appears to assembling a half decent squad, the problem is he ain't playing any of them. Reason to get rid of Sam are easy:
1.Collins a preferred CB, bullshit the ginger welsh cunt is useless as emphasized all pre-season and in particular against Sampdoria. Hoofball wanker cost us at the weekend too. I'd rather have played Burke if Tomkins was out.
2. Nolan still captain and selected. Fucking useless but sniffs out 6 goals in 7 games in Feb every year and manages to keep his poacher label. Needs to be dropped in a team that can't afford a passenger
3. Cole as the first option when Carroll is out. Fuck me we got rid of big dopey twat last year and then got him back as an emergency measure only for him to start the 1st game. Zarate, Lee, Valencia ... anyone else but him.
4. JOB, had his best game of the season against the yids but doesn't mean he is any good, Demel is twice the player and then I'd go youth ahead of him.
Sam has his favourites and will never drop them, he has his tactics and will never change them regardless of personnel available. For these reasons he should be got rid of straight away.
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dicksie3
9:59 Tue Aug 19
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I've said it already on another thread the other day but if we make a shit start to the season and the walrus gets the elbow; I don't think that it's too bad a squad for someone else to inherit now...
We have a number of options to change our make-up in midfield and up-front - maybe even two if we want: Zarate and Valencia / Sakho and Valencia / Zarate just behind one of them / whatever...
We have a lot of midfield options as well... And good options as well...
Of course, it will take a new manager to change the team and formation as LARD ARSE and CARTHORSE or PONY CARROLL and 4-5-1 is never going to change with the walrus at the club...
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claret on my shirt
9:14 Tue Aug 19
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CFC and Nolan up front on Saturday said it all, he needs to go NOW!
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Baggins
7:23 Tue Aug 19
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"I'll say it again, Allardyce DOES deserve a chance to have a go at moving the style of play forward."
He hasn't done it in 15 or 20 years of management. He hasn't done it in three seasons with us. So why do people think he's going to do it now?
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